Uberti “El Patron” From The Custom Shop

April 29, 2010


“El Patron” video for your enjoyment:-)


Uberti Cattleman Series “El Patron” 45 Colt

   Those of us who grew up in what society calls the “Baby Boom” generation were entertained in our childhood by the best western movies and tv shows ever made. So, the old cowboy guns and gear have a near and dear place in our hearts not only because of the great old guns but memories of a much simpler time. Duty, honor and clear right and wrong themes were central to these old shows as were the guns the heroes wore. Most of us who grew up in this time have a special fondness for the 1873 Colt Peacemaker and Winchester lever action rifles. With these things in mind in recent years our generation has embraced the “Cowboy Sports” using replicas of these old guns.
   At one time original Colts were not terribly expensive and were widely used on the ranch and in early competition. These days they are collector guns and not many Colts are shot very often. Thank heavens we have great companies like Uberti who make a complete line of these old guns at pretty reasonable prices that will hold up to a lifetime of shooting. Uberti rifles and pistols are exact replicas of the originals and the quality is exceptional.
   Until a few years ago there were very few choices to be had in single actions and quality was mediocre at best. Now we have a good number of companies making single actions, shotguns and of course lever actions. My favorite brand is Uberti. Made in Italy as are many western guns from the 1900’s this company is a real innovator in the field of Cowboy action shooting.


Uberti El Patron with a Buscadero rig my wife purchased for me in San Antonio. I added the conchos later.

   As mentioned Uberti makes many models of handguns with various finishes and features mostly cosmetic in nature. With the release of the “El Patron” last fall that has changed. Most competition shooters spend a good deal of money getting a new single action ready for the range. They have the action honed and many other enhancements by the best gunsmiths specializing in cowboy guns. What makes the “El Patron” or in English “The Boss” unique is all the enhancements have been done by the custom shop at Ubert in Italy.

   Numbered cylinders custom feature

      When Uberti decided to make a full competition single action for SASS matches they sent the best parts to the custom shop where the cylinder and frame were stamped so they would not be mixed up with other parts. One artisan hand fits each revolver until completed. In the picture above you can see that each cylinder is marked 1 through 6. Additionally all the internal parts are hand fitted. All the standard springs are replaced with custom made springs from Wolff. The front sight is 1/8th inch in width with the top of the frame notched deeper and wider to accomodate the wider front sight providing a much improved sight picture while still preserving the traditional look. The trigger is tuned for a crisp break. Mine has a trigger pull of 2 pounds 6 ounces. The trigger just feels wonderful and certainly improves your groups. The grips are walnut that have been checkered by hand. The grip fit is perfect with no unsightly gaps anywhere along the grip frame. The grip frame is forged steel with a case hardened main frame also forged steel. The front of the cylinder is also slightly beveled so there is no possibility of binding between the cylinder and frame. The gap between the cylinder and forcing cone is very small yet is so well fitted the cylinder rotates freely with no contact between the two even when the revolver is loaded. This is not the case with some revolvers that haven’t had the attention to detail this model has. Speaking of details Uberti even includes the original patent numbers on the left side of the frame below the cylinder just like the old Colts.

  
“El Patron” with 4 3/4 inch barrel

     It’s been awhile since I spent some time with a single action at the range but the time I spent today was the most fun I’ve had in some time. My SAA has the 4 3/4 inch barrel and is chambered in 45 Colt or as some people say 45 Long Colt. The ammunition in 45 Colt isn’t cheap but what ammo is these days. I still chose this caliber because to me if your going to have a single action you have to use a big ol 45:-)
    

Ten yard target slow fire

    I used Winchester Cowboy loads in 250 grn lead round nose flat point. I started at ten yards loading five rounds per each cylinder. The target pictured above was my first target fired slowly to establish a good reference group. Pictured are all five rounds on a birchwood casey five inch target. One hole measuring 7/8th inches tall by 1 1/16th wide. This is the best group one could ask for from a single action. The sights were right on the money with no adjustments needed.


Fifteen yard target with the next 5 rounds

    The target above was shot from 15 yards with the next cylinder of five rounds. Again this is slow fire. Four of the five rounds went into the same hole as the ten yard rounds. I had the one called flyer slightly below the group. Oh well it happens and it was certainly my fault. Regardless this is one heck of a group for any revolver but all the more impressive from a single action revolver with fixed sights!


Seven yards fast draw

     This last target is from seven yards fast draw. It’s been way to long to try fanning without more practice so after firing 100 rounds I moved to the seven yard line and fired the group pictured above by drawing, firing one round reholstering and repeating. All shots were fired by drawing, pushing the revolver forward until the top of the revolver was visible low in my peripheral vision. Fifteen rounds were fired with very satisfactory results considering I’m somehwat rusty in this technique.
     I’ve mentioned several times how much fun a particular gun was to shoot. With the single action army replicas as well as the 1873 Winchester, Yellowboy and 1892 Winchester lever actions it just doesn’t get any better or more satisfying to master these old guns. If you have used these guns and find them as thrilling as I do you might want to consider becoming a member of the SASS. There are clubs all over the United States as well as many other countries where handguns are allowed. Visit the SASS website for more information on this exciting and fun sport. Single Action Shooting Society 
Uberti website

    A word on ammunition. Back before the advent of Cowboy action competition all the ammunition companies loaded 45 Colt fairly hot for use in the S&W model 25 revolver which is an N frame revolver that can handle pretty heavy loads. When Cowboy action competition started and really took off the ammunition companies backed way off on the loads they sold for the 45 Colt chambering since the single action clones of the old Colt couldn’t handle the hotter loads without the possibility of damage or a failure of the gun. These days about the only company that makes hot loads in this caliber is Cor-Bon but don’t shoot these +P loads in a replica Colt under any circumstances. These loads are made strictly for modern revolvers only. When shooting your cowboy gun use only the loads made for this gun. They are designated as cowboy loads and are marked as such on the box. PMC as well as Winchester and others make them. The Winchester loads are mild at approx. 700 FPS whereas the PMC load is an 800 FPS load.
     One last item should be noted as regards the safety features of this revolver. The standard practice of chambering only five rounds is still a good idea with an empty chamber under the firing pin. There is an additional safety on this model. The cylinder retaining pin normally has one notch to hold it in place securing the cylinder. The Uberti pin has two notches which allows the pin to be pushed into the second notch which blocks the hammer from striking a chambered round. I’m not really fond of this feature since it would be very easy to disable the gun without meaning to. Leaving the chamber empty under the hammer is still the best safety. The pin on the Uberti is identical with the Colt which has one notch so you can buy a Colt cylinder retaining pin and avoid the accidental blocking of the hammer.


Old Patent numbers

     I hope you enjoyed this review and as always if you have any questions about this gun or any gun related question feel free to comment and I will get back to you via email as soon as possible.

    Happy Shooting!

     

   

   

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19 Responses to “Uberti “El Patron” From The Custom Shop”

  1. Wooden Says:

    Where did you get your El Patron? I’ve been thinking of getting one in .357 and, reading some of your past posts, it looks like we may be more or less in the same neighborhood.

  2. Gunner Says:

    I got it at a place called K&R Guns in Cairo, Missouri. They are a few miles north of Moberly, Mo. They are good folks with better than average prices.

    Take care,
    Phil

  3. mark grimes Says:

    hi. i’m trying to decide on a holster for my smoke wagon 357 5.5 any input? thanks mark

  4. Gunner Says:

    Mark,

    This company has a good selection of holsters and complete rigs. Prices range from about $100 to several hundred depending on what you want and how much your willing to spend. High quality products though!

    https://www.oldtradingpost.com/old-west-store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_2

    Phil

  5. rob Says:

    i was just wondering how much one of thees is worth and if it ses premeer on the top of the barel

  6. Gunner Says:

    Robert,

    In my humble opinion this is the best”Cowboy” gun. As far as price that will vary from one dealer to the next but average price would be between $490—-$550.

    Phil

  7. peter Says:

    I just bought the EL PATRON .45LC.. Is it safe to shoot Winchester .45LC 225 grain silver tip HP. with out damage?

  8. Gunner Says:

    Peter,

    You bet no problem at all. The Silvertips were never loaded to SAAMI maximums. I’ve fired them in mine. Just no CorBons or Buffalo Bore.

    Happy shooting!
    Phil

  9. bill prochaska Says:

    help I received a gun about 9 years ago as a gift and stored it in its original box. western arms A UBERTI & c . cat. no. 1532 barrel 5 1/2 cod. no 551 on the top of the barrel is printed mitchell arms corp-costa mesa- calif.usa on the side it says single action army target model .45 long colt can you tell me more about my gun . Its never been fired. whats it worth and is it a good home protection gun.

  10. Gunner Says:

    Western Arms imported these during the late 70’s and early 80’s for Uberti. As far as value it ranges from $300 to $500 depending on condition.

  11. jason Says:

    i found a 45 factory costem for 589 is this a good price it is brand new. love this gun just dont know if good price

  12. jason Says:

    the custom I found has factory trigger work…very smooth. just dont know if i should buy or keep looking

  13. Gunner Says:

    I would sure go with the El Patron. I have found none better !

  14. David Nystrom Says:

    Had my new El Patron out for the first time today. When I went to the range I told the young man that the ten yard range was ok because I was just getting familiar with the gun. Also I told him to just leave the target that was there in place as it had only a few .22 holes in it. I picked one of the holes as a target and let fly off hand, the old .22 hole just got bigger .45. Shot about 30 more rounds all were within 2 inches of the target spot. I am 68 years old and have been a shooter all my life. I have a number of bp pistols and .22s. This was my dream gun that my wife bought me for Christmas. Wow, this is the sweetest shooting pistol that I have ever shot. Having spent 22 years in the military I have a long history of experience with many weapons. This is the best by far. Buy one, you won’t regret it for a minute.

  15. Gunner Says:

    David,

    With that hand tuned action and accuracy it is a dream gun!

    Phil

  16. Brian Payne Says:

    I recently purchased 2 Uberti 45lc in SS with a 5.5 inch barrel. I haven’t shot the guns yet but plan to soon. Do you know where to purchase a holster for these 2 guns?
    I have joined the SASS. My aka is Whiplash Willy.
    Keep in touch.

    Brian Payne

  17. Gunner Says:

    Brian,

    Congrats–you’ll enjoy them! As far as holsters Mernickle makes some beauties. A lot has to do with how much you want to spend. The SASS website has a lot of holster makers listed.

    http://www.mernickleholsters.com/bm_cowby.html


  18. I just bought a El Patron in stainless .45 and 5 1/2″ barrel. Sweet is all i can say . I have a New Vaquero in stainless .357 mag. Pearloid handles which is pretty sweet in it’s own right. I have shot my Ruger lots and she feels smooth from it although she is bone stock. I compared my El Patron to five other replicas all of them Uberti . Also compared to another New Vaquero in .45. The El Patron felt best,looked flawless and the trigger was light and smooth. I just got it haven’t shot it but am considering ordering another, dealer only had one at purchase time. I always wanted a double buscadero rig and feel I could let my Vaquero go to help finance this little dream. I live in Northern Michigan and closest SASS club is couple hundred miles away but I want to at least attend a competition as I’ve been a wannabe cowboy since I was four. Thanks for the info it helps feed the dreams.

  19. Gunner Says:

    Good for you Russ! It’s really a great revolver. I know what you mean about the double rig:-) That’s on my list as well. We have a club about an hours drive away and it sure is fun to goto even if you don’t shoot. I hope you get your second one soon!


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